The Luxury of Marriage

by Helen King, lay member of General Synod for Oxford Diocese and Editor of Via Media 

That Southwark Diocese invitation to couples with ‘healthy’ marriages to come away to a luxurious hotel for a weekend to strengthen their marriage further… It’s been doing the rounds on social media and attracting a range of comments, from outrage at ‘healthy’ to surprise at the gap between ‘luxurious’ and the values of the gospel, to suggestions that the ad makes it sound like a swingers’ weekend, to questions about the weird typo where the hotel is described as ‘near’ without saying ‘where’. Since I wrote this blog post this morning, Anna and the Comms team from the Diocese have generously responded to the various complaints (including the typo) saying on X/Twitter “We recognise that some of the language used was clumsy and unhelpful.” All credit there.

Full disclosure: I write this as someone who took the Marriage Course in 2004 and who has subsequently co-led it. I think it’s a very good course (OK, there are some cringeworthy moments, but they’re the exceptions) and my husband and I both found it very useful in different ways. When he saw the Southwark invitation and its typo, he did wonder whether the omission of the venue was to stop those of us who’ve done the Marriage Course showing up in the hotel bar and staging a really high quality argument in the style of Session 2 ‘Resolving Conflict’.

Now, I’m not in one, but I entirely understand that clergy marriages are particularly challenged. I don’t know if that’s worse, or better, or just different in the situation where both partners are clergy, but maybe the modified four sections of the Marriage Course are adjusted according to that further potential dynamic. It is interesting, though, that the Southwark version is led by two couples where the man is the clergyperson. I wonder whether the national version also allows couples where both are clergy, or where the woman is the clergyperson, to be leaders?

When we ran the marriage course, it was explicit in the course materials that this was for ‘couples’; whether or not they were married was not an issue. That is still stated here: “The Marriage Course is for couples who are married or have been living together for more than two years”. However, other websites put it differently. HTB’s site has “designed to help married couples invest in their relationship and build a strong marriage” (online course and in person). Has this been tightened up since we took the course?

Time for an even fuller disclosure: we weren’t married when we took the Marriage Course. The Pre-Marriage Course wasn’t available locally so we asked the local independent church (offshoot of a Baptist church) if it would be OK to join and they couldn’t see why not. After all, my husband has been married before, just not to me… and it was my idea to do it, since marrying for the first time in one’s late 40s is quite a step to take. And Session 6 is on ‘Good Sex’. Well, there we are. If you aren’t doing the practicals, you can at least get up to speed on the theory elements.

And the issue of sex brings me to the most disturbing point. When we ran the Marriage Course here, there weren’t any lesbian or gay couples in our church who wanted to take part. Had there been, we would have welcomed them. But the helpers, who served and cleared up the meal, by chance included lesbian and gay people, and they could watch the videos on the big screen. They didn’t raise any objections, and they said they found it all very helpful,

But, as usual in the current state of the Church of England with its claims for a “radical new Christian inclusion” which don’t play out on the ground, there’s a significant group of people who are excluded from the Southwark Diocese weekend: clergy in same-sex civil partnerships or marriages. Clergy same-sex marriage is of course currently deemed Not OK, and those clergy who have entered such marriages are told they won’t be licensed to minister once they leave their current job. This has already deprived the church of people in good and faithful (and ‘healthy’?) relationships, who are good priests. But those in CPs are, of course, at least officially, supposed to be fine, because there’s no sex in CPs – at least, not according to the Church of England. So maybe it wouldn’t be a smart move to offer people in CPs the Marriage Course ‘Good Sex’ session. But that’s only one of the seven sessions, and the Southwark Diocese weekend is just doing four out of seven.

So, would a clergyperson in a (perfectly valid) same-sex civil partnership be allowed to attend the Southwark ‘luxurious’ weekend where their ‘healthy’ relationship could be strengthened further?

Apparently not. This suggests that the word ‘healthy’ is doing two different jobs: it’s making the point that, if your marriage is in difficulty, you should be looking for help from someone who specialises in this situation rather than rocking up to the luxurious hotel, but it also seems to be carrying the suggestion that only straight relationships can be ‘healthy’.

When the exclusion of same-sex couples was stated on  X/Twitter, my fellow Synod member Benjamin John commented “But clergy can’t enter same sex marriages”? I asked him whether he would support those who enter same sex CPs having “events like this to help strengthen the relationships of such clergy?”

He replied, “No”.

Well, there you have it. Lesbian and gay and same-sex attracted clergy, the Church of England fully and explicitly recognises your civil partnerships, entered into according to the law of the land but also in faith and hope and commitment, but you can’t attend a weekend to help keep your relationship strong – and at least one member of Synod wouldn’t support anything that was of benefit to your relationship.

 

 

 

Comments

5 responses to “The Luxury of Marriage”

  1. Lottie E Allen avatar

    We are exercising patience. It is probably a fruit of the Spirit.

    LLF is trying everyone’s patience.

    Conservative Evangelicals are rebranding themselves as “orthodox”. In so doing they are walking in the borderlands of heresy.

    The exclusion of the Church of England from Equalities legislation is unsustainable and indefensible.

    The Church of England has to get its act together. The aim is clear: marry everyone or marry no one.

    If the House of Bishops and General Synod do not up the quality of their game and make real progress, and if the CEEC continue unchallenged with schismatic actions, then we shall take the debate to the House of Commons. You cannot have your cake and eat it. The national church exercises decisions in Synod by authority of Statute. The Church of England marries people by Statute. All these can be amended or repealed. We are not illiterate of the functions of our democracy.

    Marry everyone. Or marry no one.

  2. Canon Dr Clare Amos avatar
    Canon Dr Clare Amos

    Thank you Helen for this reflection which I found useful and helpful – in particular for sharing the fact that you yourself had participated in ‘The Marriage Course’. And indeed the caveat that the Diocese of Southwark has now recognised that the wording of the original information left something (quite a lot?) to be desired. I still however have a number of concerns – several of which revolve around the use of the word ‘healthy’ in the initial notice, which I feel was deeply unfortunate. I will seek to spell out my concerns – and would be interested in your (and others’) reflection. This is quite apart from the LLF issues, which I know have concerned others who have reacted against this announcement.

    I was interested to discover more about those who were leading the course, so (in these internet days) I looked them up on the web. In the case of Jago and Susannah Wynne I was interested – but also deeply perturbed – to discover that on the ‘Whos Who’ section of the Holy Trinity Clapham website under the name and role of ‘Rector’ was given, ‘Jago & Susannah Wynne’. The implication of this is that in some way they jointly act as ‘Rector’, which surely is legally not the case. I assume that the reality is that Jago is the Rector, but that they want to associate Susannah in some deep and intimate way with his ministry. Now I actually find that a deeply ‘unhealthy’ model of both marriage and ministry, unhealthy both for Jago and Susannah, and certainly for their roles as leaders of this course. I am very aware of the fact that in certain evangelical circles there is precisely the tendency to suggest that husband and wife somehow have a joint clerical ministry (though with the wife of course knowing her place as ‘subordinate’ to her husband!). Personally I regard such an understanding as ‘unhealthy’ – both for the couple concerned, but even more because of the pressure that it puts on other clergy couples to see their own ministry and marriage in a similar light. In this particular instance it really does concern me that a couple who apparently hold such views are acting as leaders in such a ‘Marriage Course’ for other clergy couples.

    My husband is an Anglican priest, and I am a committed Anglican lay theologian so I have had long experience of reflecting on these questions. Indeed at times we have been on the receiving end of deeply inappropriate behaviour from individuals and at organisations – generally of an evangelical persuasion – because we do not ‘fit’ their ‘approved’ pattern of marriage and ministry.

    So I react deeply against the word ‘healthy’. I do not know whether, in the context of this notice this is what is implied, but given my own history, when I hear the phrase ‘healthy marriage’ I find myself remembering what I felt veered on the dishonest and abusive way I (in fact ‘we’) were treated by an evangelical Anglican mission organisation we were associated with a number of years ago. We were treated in this way because we did not fit into the approved pattern in which my role was expected to be the submissive and supportive wife. I had the audacity to insist that my professional vocation mattered too! And for my (our) pains I was made to feel that there was something ‘wrong’ with our marriage ie that it was ‘unhealthy’. Indeed when I protested the discriminatory and appallingly sexist way in which I was being treated I was specifically rebuked by a senior member of staff of the organisation with the comment, ‘We believe in Christian marriage’ ie my husband’s and my view of marriage – as being a true partnership of equals with both our professional vocations being honoured – was somehow ‘not Christian’. I know that in some evangelical circles the expression ‘Christian marriage’ is still to some extent used to describe a such model of marriage in which the husband is the ‘lead’ and the wife’s key role is to be supportive of and submissive to him.

    Is such so-called ‘Christian marriage’ the implication of what is meant by healthy/unhealthy in this context? If so I would be horrified if the Diocese of Southwark, which I have been associated with in the past, was in any way sponsoring or supporting this initiative?

    Clare Amos
    (I choose at this point not explicitly to name the organisation to which I am referring, but I suspect a cursory check of my husband’s and my previous working history would make it apparent.)

    1. Helen King avatar
      Helen King

      Thank you Clare.
      I wasn’t aware of the way the Wynnes present themselves online and I share your unease with this. It seems to me to be part of a pattern in some evangelical circles, but I’ve not seen it in the parish context as much as in the wider organisations like New Wine. And yes indeed, the words ‘Christian marriage’ are used to favour some sorts of relationship above others in a way that is far from ‘healthy’…

  3. Roger Button avatar
    Roger Button

    What would Jesus do? We have no evidence either way, but we do know that love and compassion trump legalism.

  4. IanKStubbs Art avatar

    Well we might reflect on Matthew’s alleged’ comment of Jesus, at the resurrection we’ll be like angels in heaven, marriage will have no place. Jesus seems to have prepared for this in advance as did Paul.

Any thoughts?